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Post by Tigress on Aug 17, 2005 16:16:46 GMT -5
The Case for Rock Music
The lead singer for Kids in the Way says we should stop judging music and start embracing the spirits of the songs.
Interview by Dena Ross
Dave Pelsue embodies Christian cool. With his long hair, tattoos, body piercings, and powerful voice, he could easily fit into any mainstream rock band. But he's also got a strong Christian message to sell with his band Kids in the Way--though not in the in-your-face way popularized in the early days of gospel music. In 2003 the band signed with Flicker Records, a Christian indie label, and the following year released their debut album. "Safe From the Losing Fight" sparked hits "Phoenix With a Heartache" and "We Are,"--which was used on a recent episode of "The Road Rules/ Real World Challenge." Currently out promoting their follow-up album, "Apparitions of Melody" (2005), Dave recently spoke with Beliefnet about the spirit of music, criticism of his unique style, and what he'd tell the pope about "evil" rock music. ยป Continue...
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Post by PhantomsPandora on Aug 26, 2005 4:49:33 GMT -5
Rock music isn't evil and can't cause anymore harm than the message in pop music. All I can say about that is that anyone who thinks that surely hasn't took a good look at the genre. It's like Elvis being controversial back in the day, and people in our generation find the objection to swinging hips laughable.
Though Christian music can get old after a while-I did listen to a lot of Christian Rock when younger, Jars of Clay, Audio Adrenline, Newsboys, Dc Talk..I still listen to them on occasion. They have good messages in them and aren't repeative. Right now I'm really into Mercy Me.
Sounds like I'll have to listen to this group, and I'm not surprised they would be judged as was mentioned in the article. Just not surprised at all. I'd rather someone come as they are, dressed how they wanted to and sound like how they wanted to than someone making them this clean cut image and singing manufactured digitized music. Barf.
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Post by ophelia97 on Sept 2, 2005 11:17:46 GMT -5
Rock music isn't evil and can't cause anymore harm than the message in pop music. All I can say about that is that anyone who thinks that surely hasn't took a good look at the genre. It's like Elvis being controversial back in the day, and people in our generation find the objection to swinging hips laughable. Just as in the violent video games thread, the only people that would find evil messages in rock music are either psychopaths (which means the threat was already established in them) or they're intentionally trying to find something controversial. How can someone claim a song is about what they think it's about when the writer claims it's about something completely different? Same here; many of the artists I respect are the people that seem to be in charge of their art and image, even if it means questionable or controversial material. Even for the musicians that offend me, I don't complain that they should be banned or censored; I just don't listen to their music. |
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Post by Tara on Sept 4, 2005 11:15:34 GMT -5
I kinda felt that way. I was wondering why the isolation. But with the stereotypes that go with certain music, I can see why that label has come about. What about those pastors who claim that rock music is of the devil? What do they think about bands such as these?
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Post by ophelia97 on Sept 6, 2005 13:53:29 GMT -5
I read an article that said rock music is shifting as a result of religious themed music, and many pastors are now targeting "gangsta rap" music instead. Any thoughts on this?
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Post by Tara on Sept 6, 2005 15:52:35 GMT -5
 Kanye West started with some rap music that was very Christian in nature. Some other rap music has mention of God and loss of hope. You've just got to be able to understand the language of those who are less fortunate. |
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Post by cenk on Sept 6, 2005 16:18:35 GMT -5
I know its not rock music but i love tupac - my ghetto gospel!
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Post by Tara on Sept 6, 2005 16:43:54 GMT -5
Oh my goodness, how could I have forgotten him?! Yes, him too. I really like the messages in his music as well.
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Post by Mestemia on Sept 6, 2005 18:05:18 GMT -5
I still remember the fuss over Ozzy Ozborne's Suicide Solution
The parents of a fellow who committed suicide tried blaming that song for it.
It was a go, until the judge heard the lyrics and realized that the song was not about committing suicide but is, in fact, against suicide...
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Post by Tara on Sept 6, 2005 21:05:54 GMT -5
Isn't that just plain dumb?
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Post by PhantomsPandora on Sept 7, 2005 0:34:19 GMT -5
lol I admit I go through periods with music..some times it's rap I don't like, sometimes it's something else. Never really thought something was evil. Well perhaps the insane clown posse.. but that's because the idea of clowns makes me want to scream nonstop. I had a friend that was in to them and Manson as well... so much of what manson is is hype.
Are they evil because someone said so or are they truly evil? I'd much rather listen to a track and decide on my own thanks, and that's a thing I've never understood about why someone will so readily believe their pastor over their own ears/eyes/heart/mind.
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Post by ophelia97 on Sept 7, 2005 8:19:53 GMT -5
Kanye West started with some rap music that was very Christian in nature. Some other rap music has mention of God and loss of hope. You've just got to be able to understand the language of those who are less fortunate. I didn't mean to target rap in general, just the gangsta rap subgenre that has violent lyrics about raping women and killing cops. There is a lot of rap music with positive lyrics these days. There is definitely something creepy about clowns, so I'm leery of any group that has to do with them. I also can't stand Marilyn Manson. His image overshadows the music to the point where he comes off as a pathetic joke over time. When the initial shock wore off, people started to lose interest because he seemed more and more like a novelty act and less like an actual musician. |
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Post by cenk on Sept 7, 2005 8:25:44 GMT -5
haha I heard that Marilyn Manson actually came from a really Christian (Catholic, I think) family. He even went to a Christian school.
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Post by PhantomsPandora on Sept 7, 2005 12:26:51 GMT -5
Yeah as far as I can remember he did. I'm not out to say anyone's ugly or anything, but I sure wish someone would slap a mask on him. I mean I listen to groups that have caused controversy going "What is the big freakin deal here", manson's one of them. This girl had a crush on him and while I respect that, I just felt weirded out. (and i know i'm getting off topic here) I wish we could build a case for rock music. There's only one rock music station in my area now, really.  |
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Post by ophelia97 on Sept 9, 2005 8:02:26 GMT -5
This girl had a crush on him and while I respect that, I just felt weirded out. (and i know i'm getting off topic here)  People have different tastes, but that's still really difficult to believe. I've never seen him without all the makeup and crap he puts on his face though, so maybe he looks like a normal human being without it... |
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People have different tastes, but that's still really difficult to believe.