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Post by teancum79 on May 11, 2006 18:13:28 GMT -5
Good, Bad or Ugly? Animal rights people are committing vandalism and even dug up a body to protest the raising of animals for lab experiments. on the one hand these people are harming others. On the other can we label every person who commits a crime as a terrorist? Those in or near the UK might have heard a lot more I just ran across this article.
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Post by Tara on May 12, 2006 15:58:24 GMT -5
It was a stupid idea in my opinion.
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Post by teancum79 on May 12, 2006 16:28:25 GMT -5
I just checked one of the google adds community.hsus.org/campaign/googlepetsApparently they want congress to pass a law requiring states to have evacuation plans for peoples pets. They have got to be nuts. I can see requiring seeing eye dogs and the like, but in a disaster and human lives are at stake pets need to take a back seat. Very far back.
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Post by littlepea on May 12, 2006 17:41:37 GMT -5
yeah, i'd heard a bit about it. they are militant animal rights extremists - what's the difference between than an militant islamic terrorists? or militant irish republican terrorists? they're using terrorism to get their message across, it's aborrent.
animals aren't people, they don't deserve the same rights as people and if animal testing potentially saves human life then i see nothing wrong with it. even if it doesn't actually save lives, the potential to save lives is good enough for me.
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Post by cenk on May 13, 2006 9:26:58 GMT -5
yeah, i'd heard a bit about it. they are militant animal rights extremists - what's the difference between than an militant islamic terrorists? or militant irish republican terrorists? they're using terrorism to get their message across, it's aborrent. animals aren't people, they don't deserve the same rights as people and if animal testing potentially saves human life then i see nothing wrong with it. even if it doesn't actually save lives, the potential to save lives is good enough for me. Yeah I agree. These pricks actually dug up a dead womans body because of her relatives involvement. Its times like this when I believe they should bring back hanging. There have been pro-animal testing protests in the UK.
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Post by littlepea on May 13, 2006 12:38:52 GMT -5
i remember that and at the time i listened to a radio phone in on bbc radio 5 live. they had an extremist animal rights person on there and lots of people were phoning in both in support and in opposition to what he was saying (he was saying that he was doing nothing wrong by destroying property to get his message across). i sent in a txt saying what i said in my last post, "if animal testing potentially saves human life then the end justifies the means" (is what i said), and then later on one of my friends from school phoned in, which was quite amusing ah, good times ... anyway, carry on with the discussion
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Post by Tara on May 17, 2006 10:44:35 GMT -5
I don't know what to think of that. If there are too many pets or something that may interfere with whatever is going on to save human lives, then maybe the pets do need to take a back seat. But I think that if someone wants to take their pet, then they should let them. But just like if there were no disaster, you are responsible for whatever and whoever you take with you. I say there shouldn't be any legal action with people with pets unless it is seriously interfering with saving people's lives.
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Post by littlepea on May 17, 2006 17:52:02 GMT -5
I don't know what to think of that. If there are too many pets or something that may interfere with whatever is going on to save human lives, then maybe the pets do need to take a back seat. well duh i saw something on the news about the flood in new orleans (that's where the massive flood was recently, wasn't it?) and it showed some guy who was staying in his house with his 9 dogs and wouldn't be forced to leave unless all his dogs were evacuated with him. i think people should come first, if people want to take their pets with them then they can wait until there is no shortage of space on the rescue boats. there's no sense in animals taking up space that could be used to save people. at the same time if you care so much about your pets then you can leave when they leave - ie. after everyone else has been rescued first. that's just the way it should be - people are more important than animals. the guy with the 9 dogs had to wait until everyone else had been rescued and i'd have done the same if i had a dog, but animals can't be saved at the expense of human life.
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Post by dianaholberg on May 18, 2006 7:31:00 GMT -5
Well said, littlepea.
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