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Post by littlepea on Mar 12, 2006 9:47:53 GMT -5
it's not really a touchy subject, on the whole, it's just that i was astounded that you seemed to think people shouldn't be pissed off with you. since you were quoting me in your response i thought you were still talking about why people hate america (since that's what i was getting at).
the UK is pretty pathetic as well as it backs up the USA without question and lets itself be abused by you, eg. the treaty that's currently in place which lets america take british citizens suspected of terrorism straight over to the USA without investigation whereas if the UK wants to take an american suspected of terrorism over to the britain then it must show some evidence for its suspicion - this is a double-standard, but one which tony blair actually accepted ... what a weakling!
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Post by Mestemia on Mar 12, 2006 10:30:07 GMT -5
There are those who will hate you for all the right reasons, There are those who will hate you for all the wrong reasons, There are those who will hate you for hates sake,
It is the ones who will hate you for no reason other than to hate you, that piss me off.
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Post by littlepea on Mar 12, 2006 21:04:38 GMT -5
i'm not trying to defend them, though if you asked your average european if and why they hate america i think they'd be more likely to say what i've been saying so far than to point to things from cenk's list (which was my original point, if you remember).
in case you haven't noticed so far, sometimes i say "you" to refer to you individually and other times i say "you" to refer to the USA as a country - hopefully you can figure out which one i mean from the context (if you bear in mind that i don't blame you individually for the wrongs that the USA has committed as a nation then it should be obvious what i mean)
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Post by cenk on Mar 15, 2006 11:10:20 GMT -5
the UK is pretty pathetic as well as it backs up the USA without question and lets itself be abused by you, eg. the treaty that's currently in place which lets america take british citizens suspected of terrorism straight over to the USA without investigation whereas if the UK wants to take an american suspected of terrorism over to the britain then it must show some evidence for its suspicion - this is a double-standard, but one which tony blair actually accepted ... what a weakling! Tony Blair (B-liar) took the easy way out. It would have been braver on his behalf to refuse American requests. However he caved in to the Americans because it was the easier way out. I agree that the USA is the homeland of double standards. They call the deaths of a handful of Americans in boston a massacre but on that basis shouldn't U.S crimes against humanity in Korea be classified as a Holocaust? Shouldn't U.S crimes against humanity in Vietnam be classified as a Holocaust? Shouldn't U.S crimes against humanity in Iraq (twice) be classified as a Holocaust? etc...
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Post by littlepea on Mar 15, 2006 14:49:46 GMT -5
actually they call them wars.
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