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Post by Tara on Jan 7, 2005 18:38:01 GMT -5
I didn't know where else to put this. But according to archaeologist David Rohl, the timeline of the Bible and their interpretation of the history of Egypt is 300 years off. Here are some links to look into: Searching for the True Chronology of EgyptThe bible's archaeological evidenceDavid Rohl has also written a book on his findings in Egypt (don't remember the name of it, but a quick amazon search may help). I recently watched a recording that someone let me borrow from the Discovery Channel. The guy seems very convincing and I'm thinking of looking into this more. But if this is true, personally, my theory is not that the Bible is wrong, but that the writers were using a different calendar system than the Egyptians. But I think that could throw off historians big time...especially the ones that give tours and write books. Thoughts anyone?
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Post by PhantomsPandora on Jan 7, 2005 20:07:27 GMT -5
Ih eard that the Ramses and Moses story was true. But there's real debate to him delivering all of the slaves out of Egypt. A movie I watched on Imax a few years back said that they were not slaves but were servants of sorts that had to spend time building the pryamids. That they felt obligated to do it and glad to, not the story of Moses' people being oppressed. I'd sure like to know the answer to that puzzle.
I'm like you, I love Egyptology, I'd love to go there, but something tells me I'd end up looking like a peice of swiss cheese, it's not safe there now.
I'd love to soak up the atmosphere, and the music...
I've been to several museum displays of Egyptian things, on the news to day they were giving King Tut a cat-scan to find out what happened to him. I don't know if we'll ever know.
And part of me is disturbed by how the dead are just ripped out of their tombs like that.(I've never seen a mummy at any of the displays, several funerary items, but never a body) I understand that they are keeping them safe from other would be tomb robbers, but still. Everyone has the right to rest, and they wouldn't do that to Christians, unless something was very wrong.
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Post by Tara on Jan 8, 2005 10:05:23 GMT -5
About the slaves thing... I watched that too. It seems that it shows how dedicated the common people were to the gods. I mean, it's like this for them, they need a job, so they work on building a temple or pyramid. On top of that, it's for the glory of a god. The Egyptians strived for order and they feared if the gods were not happy, it would be chaos. I'm still wondering if this was truly a fear or a strange sort of brainwashed happiness. What makes them slaves or not depends on that and if it's the latter, I don't think they would know. I'm like you, I love Egyptology, I'd love to go there, but something tells me I'd end up looking like a peice of swiss cheese, it's not safe there now. I'd love to soak up the atmosphere, and the music... Yes... the music....the culture.... but what sux is that the actual ancient Egyptian culture is no more. It's just Arabic culture, however, I think the closest you can get to ancient Egyptian culture are the Nubians today. I also heard another way to get closer to the ancient ways was a specific Coptic church. Unfortunatly I don't remember the name. (perhaps if I playback the video, I might remember) But the way the rock back and forth the inscence holder and the bells and even the language spoken...close to the ancient way. That's what my mom felt. She felt it wasn't respectful to the dead. But it was the only way we could find out the history of Egypt. And Tut's tomb played a huge role in that.
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Post by PhantomsPandora on Jan 8, 2005 21:50:57 GMT -5
I know honey, I don't mind the men and women who are respectful and tell their stories, but I do mind those who only see it from a scientific or commercialistic view, if that makes any sense. When they cease to be come a person, then that worries me.
There is times when it is very imperative to bring someone out of tomb or exhume them from a grave. And I do enjoy looking at a display, as I don't know if I'll ever be able to go Egypt and pay my respects.
Take the people from the Titanic that are buried. (I've been to one of the traveling exhibits around here, that has an actual peice of the ship. I was really disturbed when children went by and touched it when they were not supposed to. To me the Titanic is like a gravesite, for many reasons. There were a lot of things taken from the site itself there that bothered me, personal items. )
They've been able to figure out some of them who were unknowns, especially the unknown child. When I saw the footage of that I just bawled like a baby, these men that had found him had taken care to give him a proper funeral.
I like that Secrets of the Dead show that used to come on Pbs, you might too.
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Post by Tigress on Jan 9, 2005 0:51:44 GMT -5
Yeah, that was a good show, and I completely agree Pandora. It really ticks me off when I see people going about their "business" with no respect for the dead, or the culture, etc. You know, as much as I care about scientific research, I'd be pretty miffed if someone came in to my tomb and intended to use my mummified body in the name of research and profit, caring little about me. Just think about that. Put yourself in the place of a mummy or one of the passengers of the Titanic. The line is fine, but it should still be respected.
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Post by Tara on Jan 9, 2005 13:33:50 GMT -5
Yeah, unless I donated my body to science, I wouldn't want something like that done to me.
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Post by Amalcas on Jan 9, 2005 16:23:55 GMT -5
Its better than what used to happen to some of them -- King Charles II (or was it I?) had mummies ground up and rubbed that on his skin, in an attempt to "steal" their glory.
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Post by PhantomsPandora on Jan 10, 2005 1:13:49 GMT -5
I know, I've read that at one point they even used to put them in parlors to show off to their friends they'd have over when they'd entertain. sick and twisted..but I wouldn't put it past most of them during that time period. There were a lot of scientists that grave robbed before donating a body to science was an accepted thing so that their college students would see autopsys and things like that.
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Post by Tara on Jan 10, 2005 8:16:12 GMT -5
I think they also used the mummified remains to fertilize the soil. And I vagueley remember something with meatshops, paper... oh... something about the bandages used for the paper in meatshops...
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