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[dianaholberg]

So when a paedophile sodomizes your 8-year-old son repeatedly and claims that he did it out of love for the boy, will you accept his word or will you press charges?

[jedivelariuskenobi]

i just said i don't think that is where our society is trying to evolve to Diana ... so of course i would press charges.

[dianaholberg]

Just trying to see if you would live by the stuff you're spreading.

[jedivelariuskenobi]

Of course i would Diana , Manifest Love, but it doesn't matter about whether i personally would or not, it is the message of love that is important.

[dianaholberg]

It doesn't appear to me that you would. It appears to me that you would act according to what is right and leave your beliefs in relativism at the door. That has been my consistent experience of all who advocate that evil can be good and good can be evil.

[jedivelariuskenobi]

dianaholberg said:

It doesn't appear to me that you would. It appears to me that you would act according to what is right and leave your beliefs in relativism at the door. That has been my consistent experience of all who advocate that evil can be good and good can be evil.

Two thing:

1) That has been your experience because that is the experience you create. You think relativism is "bad", and thus you create the experiences you see in your mind and in your constant expectations out into the universe.

2) Just because what i said i would do meshes with what you think is "good" doesn't mean that is the reasoning behind it. Here let me make a generalization like you often do: Like all of you absolute good and evil people you see evil everywhere and thus create it. You think we shirk our beliefs because of your limited understanding of them, limited understanding not because you have not read, but because you have not felt, not delved deep and really considered them.

In Love and Light,

God

[dianaholberg]

Or... you're just self-deluded... ;D

[jedivelariuskenobi]

think of it this way, even if i am self-deluded, at least my delusion comes from within and not from a religious corporation ;D

[dianaholberg]

Believe what you want about the Catholic Church -- I'm much more concerned about answering for what we did and did not do for our children.

[Mestemia]

"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." --Albert Einstein

[teancum79]

quite true (wow this is like 3 or 4 times now), but in a society where freedom is at least officially a big deal. There is not much we can do, but punish people for doing really bad things to try and keep a handle on problems.

[dianaholberg]

polytheist said:

"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." --Albert Einstein

This is not my argument for doing good -- I do good out of love of my Lord and my brothers and sisters. It is my argument for teaching those who don't know good to do good.

[Amalcas]

Which is, ultimately, the problem with a lot of evangelism; the only "logical" argument is the carrot and stick, yet that's almost exactly what people aren't looking for in religion. In other words, evangelical practices have gone largely astray from their purpose -- to spread the spirit of goodwill and love that is conducive to spiritual growth.

[dianaholberg]

That's because there is not love without safe boundaries.

[teancum79]

If a religion does not teach right from wrong what are they good for?